Carnival of the Godless #88

Welcome to the Eighty Eighth edition of Carnival of the Godless! One of my passions is comics, so I've grouped our submissions together according to how I think they'd translate into the visual world of that medium. To help you plan what you'd like to read when, One-Panels will be quick reads, Daily Strips a bit longer, Sunday Strips a moderate amount of time, and Graphic Novels a serious session.

One Panel

Some comics take place entirely in one panel, and while at first glance you might think such a format would allow only superficial, silly stuff, in fact its very brevity can force a lot of power. For example, this "Ziggy" strip when read a certain way has very wry existential implications:

Note that there's a slot to pay, but no slot for anything to come out of. I can't think of a more thought-provoking way to look at religion, and the posts in this category have that same short, edgy, powerful punch.

Digital Cuttlefish presents I Thought I Saw An Atheist posted at The Digital Cuttlefish. A funny, and touching poem in rhyme about just where those atheists among us might be.

Deborah presents Hot atheist buns posted at In a strange land. Will clicking this link take you to exciting photos of PZ Meyers' and Richard Dawkins' exposed bums? There's only one way to find out!

Dave McRitchie presents Galileo Rehabilitated - Catholic Church Recants posted at The View from Here. It took 400 years, but the Church finally came around. Nice.

Chris Hallquist presents Matt Nisbet is a dishonest scumbag posted at The Uncredible Hallq.

Adam H presents nothing fails quite like prayer posted at ...And That's How You Live With A Curse. A couple lets their daughter die because their faith prohibits medical care.

Daily Strip

The "standard" comic strip appears every day but Sunday in the daily paper. They feature recurring characters and a history that requires some familiarity with the general idea of the strip. The posts in this category take a bit longer to read and also require a bit of background to really understand, but are just as powerful as one-panel examples.

Deborah presents Opting out posted at In a strange land, saying, "First time submitter....

My daughters' allegedly secular state school has no simple way for parents and children to opt out of the "Christian options program" just before the Easter break."

Evolved presents Why do these theistard cultists need tetanus shots? posted at Evolved and Rational. Worshipers in the Philippines nail themselves to crosses and the state's biggest worry is about them getting tetanus?

Katharine presents On deception in religion posted at Missives from the Frontal Lobe. Why do so many Christian groups resort to dishonest tactics to attract members?

Curmudgeonly Yours presents Tunnel vision posted at The Mutt's Nuts. Some Old Testament passages reveal God to be a horrible monster, but Christians rarely read those scenes.

vjack presents A Non-Believer in Church: The Orchard at Tupelo posted at Mississippi Atheists. A non-believer attends church and reports their observations.

Mark A. Rayner presents Thag not grok god! posted at The Skwib. Cavemen ponder the origin of rain.

Sunday strip

The Sunday comic strips allow the creators a lot more room to make their point, and they get to use color instead of black and white. They take a bit longer to read, but still retain that comic-strip ability to make a powerful point.

Newbie Atheist presents More sins? What?s next - cheap prescriptions? posted at The *Angriest* Pharmacist, saying, "For your consideration; a fun post from a non-atheist site that looks at new rules on sin from the Vatican"

Greta Christina presents On The Amazingness of Atheists... And Why It's Doomed posted at Greta Christina's Blog, saying, "Why the atheist community is so amazing; why that amazingness is doomed; and why that's exactly as it should be."

Jeffrey Stingerstein presents Evangelical Fundamental Atheists? posted at Disillusioned Words. What does that string of names even mean?

godma presents The Art of Persuasion posted at On Fire for Reason, or a look at how atheists and theists can use strategies to speak to each other more effectively.

No More Mr. Nice Guy! presents Freedom for me, but not for thee posted at No More Mr. Nice Guy!, saying, "Blogging against theocracy."

Greg Laden presents Greg Laden's Blog : PZ Myers Expelled, Gains Sainthood posted at Greg Laden's Blog. The great PZ Meyers Expelled Incident is destined to be an Internet classic, and Greg's post is a wonderful, comprehensive summary of links to get caught up on just what happened.

Skeptico presents Evolution Not Responsible for Hitler posted at Skeptico.

miller presents The Trial of God posted at Skeptic's Play, saying, "Atheist commentary on an unusual play called "The Trial of God""

Andrew Fox presents Truth and Cooperation posted at Sexy Secularist!, saying, "Question: Should we respect common ethical ground, even when that ground rests on a false foundation?"

Christian Bachmann presents A double-edged word of comfort posted at Joy of Freethinking, saying, "The equation death = peace is often used as a word of comfort at funerals, but its consequence is very tricky and may be even a risk for humanism."

Steve Snyder/SocraticGadfly presents Pharyngula gets creationist movie boot and lies posted at SocraticGadfly, saying, "My take on the New York Times story about Pharyngula (P.Z. Myers) getting the boot from the "Expelled" screening."

C. L. Hanson presents Me, my kids, and "teach the controversy" posted at Letters from a broad..., saying, "An atheist family has fun with biology."

Skeptigator presents Promoting religious advocacy for secularism posted at Freethought Fort Wayne, saying, "Originally pulled this out of my drafts for the Blog Against Theocracy however I thought this might be a nice positive message."

vjack presents Day of Mockery: The Obligatory Easter Post posted at Atheist Revolution.

Graphic Novel

Graphic novels take comics into its longest and most in-depth format, telling novel-length tales while still utilizing the powerful tools of simplified iconic figures, word balloons, and the other hallmarks of the medium. These entries take the longest to read and provide a lot of food for thought; get ready to settle in for a while and really think.

A.C. Chase presents Religious Indoctrination: A Loaded Gun posted at Alexander the Atheist. A scholarly look at what religious indoctrination is and why it's something we should oppose.

ben presents After God & Art posted at Head Wide Open, exploring what will become of art in a post-Christian world.

Chris Hallquist presents Is a politics of sanity possible? posted at The Uncredible Hallq.

Jeffrey Stingerstein presents Emotional Truth Versus Objective Truth (and how they relate to theism and atheism) posted at Disillusioned Words.

Hank Fox presents Does Jesus Make You Happy? posted at HankFox.com, saying, "We regularly see purported scientific studies that claim belief in God makes you happier, that atheists are less content than those who regularly go to church. Just how reliable are those studies?"

John Wilson presents On agnosticism and atheism: opening a can of worms posted at Armchair Dissident, saying, "I reply to a commenter - well known to me - on the question, "is atheism rationally defensible". Short answer? Yes. This is the longer answer."

Jeffrey Stingerstein presents untheist, atheist, nontheist, intheist? Let?s Call the Whole Thing Off! posted at Disillusioned Words. A lot of different terms get thrown around meaning similar things, but just what the heck do they all really say?

Ron Britton presents Hal Lindsey Comics, Part 3: Prophecy posted at Bay of Fundie. A critical look at an End Times believer's work.

Risto Juola presents Divinations, V : Inelegant Design posted at Risto NET :: Blog, saying, "Commentary and analysis of a lecture given by Christian apologist Alister McGrath."

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Carnival of the Godless #74, Pulp Edition!

The heavy fog filled the streets of the city, helpfully concealing almost-seen figures as they made their separate ways into the abandoned warehouse. A muffled clank of a chain falling away from a back door was the only clue that a clandestine meeting was about to take place, a meeting featuring a team of five of the greatest adventurers in the history of skeptical inquiry -- yes, my friends, it was time for another ...

Carnival of the Godless!

Thrown together by chance, kept together by a shared passion for truth, The Godless scour the globe to investigate, debunk, and confront issues of religion, belief, and atheism!

Occam: The Joy of Reducing Arguments To Their Smallest Bits
The first of the five to rise and give his report was the massive Occam, whose motto "Why use a razor when you have fists?" was the terror of poorly-reasoned criminals the world over. Muscles rippling in his arms, he clenched the massive fists with which he smashed all arguments down to their smallest bits, and growled his report around his toothpick.

"You guys know I been busy busting up bad arguments around the world, so when Christopher Hitchens' new book 'God is Not Great' came out, I just didn't have time ta read it. Luckily one of our operatives, Vihar Sheth, did it for us. His report, which he calls 'How Religion Poisons Everything' is posted at green | rising -- check it out, I ain't got time to read it out loud to yas."

Occam cleared his throat, and the other four looked around for the freight train that sounded like it was coming through. Embarrassed, the giant hurried on.

"I was passin' through India when I got wrapped up in this huge dust-up, a giant scrum involving Mother Teresa's Suffer Squad takin' on three opponents -- Cheerful Iconoclast's 'Mother Teresa's Sadomasochistic Theology' on cheerful iconoclast; 'No more Mr. Nice Guy!' with 'Motherfucker Teresa' over at No more Mr. Nice Guy!; and Greta Christina's "Where is my Faith": Mother Teresa and Suffering posted at Greta Christina's Blog.

"I haven't seen a fight like dat since the five of us took on The Cruise Crew and Team Thetan !" Occam's face lit up at that memory; Scientologists really know how to fight!

"Next I met with someone known only as 'The Ridger', who really had me thinkin' wit somethin' she terms 'I cast you in that role' posted at The Greenbelt, about how the Christian God seems to force people to do evil just so he can punish them."

Settling into his role as presenter, Occam cracked his knuckles. "The next person I met, you won't believe -- I mean, I like a good fight, but db0 picks one wit the very idea of Heaven in 'Heaven against Humanity', posted at The Antichristian Phenomenon.

"And speakin' of fights dat rock heaven and hell, it sounds like Holly Ord got into one with her father-in-law, it's covered in The Prejudice of Atheism on Menstrual Poetry."

Occam rubbed his massive square jaw in confusion at this point. "I'm not great wit' geography," he said, "but I couldn't figure out why dis next one wasn't in Texas. Seems 'Austin' Cline has some problems wit' dat villain Straw Man -- he takes de guy on at Why is Robert Morey Not an Atheist? on About.com Agnosticism / Atheism.

"Austin then goes on to point out how a lotta Christian philosophers seem to lament the fact dat atheists can't be actively discriminated against any more with Lamenting the Absence of Imposed Christianity, Anti-Atheist Discrimination posted at About.com Agnosticism / Atheism.

"Finally, vjack makes de argument dat 'Belief Does Not Equal Truth!' on Atheist Revolution."

With a happy grunt of relief, Occam settled his bulk back into the padded chair, looking around to see which member of the The Godless would step up next to report. He didn't have long to wait as a warm voice filled the dimly-lit room.

Ex Nihila: The Joy of Creating Something From Nothing

"Thank you, Occam, I am sure we all enjoy getting our hands dirty from time to time demolishing bad arguments. As you know, however, I spend my time searching for examples of wonderful, new creations, ideas or art never before seen. I found three outstanding examples I hope you'll like.

"First, Doombreed proposes a symbol atheists can use to identify themselves that's different from the Dawkins 'Red A'. Called simply 'An Atheist Symbol', I hope you'll go take a look at Legal Alien."

Toying with the skull rings bedecking her fingers and fidgeting slightly (which caused several whorls of color and light to pop into and out of existence), Ex Nihilia moved on to her next item. "As long I was looking at drawings, a good one from Thad Guy showed up called Not Just Atheists? Godless Atheists posted at Thad Guy. Thad strips his figures down to their bones even as he does the same to the argument being parodied. A nice, quick, fun sample."

With a big smile, Ex Nihila came to her final entry. "Nothing gets your point across like a good song parody, and Steve Snyder came through with one for the Lord's Prayer that he says is snarkily rebutting a claim that AA is 'secular' at The Philosophy of the Socratic Gadfly."

Settling her black net wrap around her pale shoulders, Ex Nihila returned to her own chair to see what the next member would have to say.

Scope: Peering into the Hearts of Humanity

The trenchcoat-clad, whippet-thin young man who stood next resembled nothing so much as some sort of wraith. The large magnifying glass enlarging one eye gave him an almost distorted look, but his gaze nonetheless burned bright. "I have used the power of my various scrying devices a great deal recently," he began, "and have peered into the hearts and histories of four people I found particularly fascinating.

"First, Adam H had an interesting conversation with a young friend in 'conversations with vincent' which is related at ...And That's How You Live With A Curse. It's a touching, human story that I think you will find as interesting to observe as I did."

Scope stood stock-still, gaze fixed on some distant vista visible only to him. His voice never wavered as he moved on to the next topic. "I too, have encountered the Cheerful Iconoclast," he said with a brief look towards Occam. "He discusses why he became an atheist in 'The Post In Which I Agree With Mark Kleiman', posted at cheerful iconoclast.

"I am not the only one who seeks to see the reasons why we perceive what we perceive, what lies beyond our senses. There is another, Eric Michael Johnson, who touches on possible biochemical and neurological explanations for feelings of faith in The Feeling of What Happens posted at The Primate Diaries.

"In another crossover, I also encountered The Ridger, but this time in the course of re-examining an old Hollywood film, in 'The Devil at 4 O'Clock' on The Greenbelt."

The steely gaze finally wavered, and the thin black hands clasped the edges of his cloak as Scope finished. He more collapsed than sat in his chair, and closed his eyes as if relieved that, for a time, they could finally rest in their endless search ...

Skeptica: The Pure Cold Light of Reason

Skeptica rose crisply and straightened her note cards. "I also searched for arguments, though those of a nature less inclined to fisticuffs," she said as she glanced quickly over at Occam. "What I found are some excellent examples of skeptical thinking applied to religious issues.

"In item number one," she continued without checking her meticulous notes, confident as always that her exceptional memory would not fail her, "Edward Baker presents Argument by Incredulous Substitution posted at In Defence Of Reason. I think his ability to spot a bad argument might rival your own extra-sensory skills, Scope."

Scope's magnified eye flickered open briefly before closing once more.

"Next, C. L. Hanson gives a skeptical, though sympathetic, look at the question of Does it matter that prayer doesn't work? posted at Main Street Plaza. I think you'll find her thoughts fascinating.

"Moving on, John acutely observes that the large number of translations of the Bible has a profound impact on how it is accepted, which he argues in You can never have too many translations of the Bible posted at hell's handmaiden.

"I should note here that after reading John's argument I got into an altercation with Gideon, the nefarious villain who shoots high-powered, full-metal Holy Books at the forces of light." Occam's fists clenched as he shot up out of his seat. "Naturally," Skeptica continued, "he was no match for my Ray Gun of Reason. He'll trouble us no longer." Relieved, the rest of the group resumed their seats.

"I am not the only skeptical inquirer to grapple with powerful forces arrayed against them, however, as Jared Asay discovered when he took on a Nuclear Physicist's attempt to rationalize faith. He recounts his epic battle in Me Versus A Nuclear Physicist posted at Axis of Jared."

Sketpica frowned. "I don't usually condone slapping around scientists, but it was definitely warranted in this case. Science's naturalism may be methodological only, but those methods can often be great weapons in the fight against poor reasoning, as Ron Britton shows with his post Molecular Evolution Proven on Bay of Fundie. Battling Behe has suffered another setback!

"Many times in our quests we have all come across the Hitler Gambit, where someone will fling the 'fact' that Hitler was an atheist at us as 'proof' that godlessness leads to horror. Austin Cline tackles that vector for us in Adolf Hitler on God: Quotes from Adolf Hitler Expressing Belief & Faith in God - Adolf Hitler had Faith in God that His Agenda was Divinely Ordained posted at About.com Agnosticism / Atheism.

"Finally," Skeptica concluded as she carefully placed her unused notes into her lab coat pocket, "tobe38 compares religious belief with smoking in Holy Smoke posted at A Load of Bright. I think you will find that he is not just blowing hot air."

The others sat in stunned silence that Skeptica would make a joke -- even a bad one -- leaving a small awkward silence that was eventually filled by the final member of the Freethinking Five.

The Cladist: Classifying That Which Cannot Be Classified

Straightening his turban, the sepulchral hero with astounding powers to bind his opponents into strict categories rose and spoke with his deep, booming voice. "As always, I have uncovered those items that otherwise defy classification. I have wrestled with them, and ultimately -- as must happen in the end to us all -- I have put them in their place. MY place." Rubbing his skeletal hands together, The Cladist revealed his findings.

"BlackSun unearthed a delightful bit of modern flimflam in his expose of the myspace Profile of the ‘El Morya’ posted at Black Sun Journal. Apparently this 19th century fabrication is as unkillable as Dracula!"

Cackling, The Cladist gestured dramatically as he revealed his next bit of arcana. "In my extensive travels, I was delighted to come across someone with the same passion for the proper use of labels as I have. Pixelation argues for a new classification for babies in I was born an iTheist posted at A Pixelated Mind."

The long face grew grim suddenly. "I hate to report that not all issues involving the classification of a baby's religious status end so harmlessly. Only Three Notes reports on the death of two newborns in Canada because their Jehova's Witness parents refused them blood transfusions in Reforming Religions: Religious Rights vs Human Rights! posted at Only Three Notes.

"And finally, my friends, Francois Tremblay presents Collectivism and relativist morality. {Part 1/2} posted at Check Your Premises."

With the presentations all made, the five adventurers rose again, settling their raiments about them. Clasping hands, they vowed once more to never surrender to the forces of ignorance, darkness, and fear.

Can it be doubted that the city slept more soundly that night, knowing that the vigilance would not waiver, that there would always be those out there in the night, defending the rights of skeptics, atheists, and freethinkers everywhere to venture where few dare to roam?

Until next time, my friends, when again The Godless reunite in their next Carnival, I wish you ... Good Life!

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I'd like to thank Brent for letting me host CotG #74, and all of you for following the link to this new site. I apologize for any confusion -- between agreeing to host the Carnival and now, I decided to separate out the atheist content of Nerd Country to this new domain to keep things more orderly.

Finally, I took a bit of a risk with the presentation of this edition, writing it in a style reminiscent of the great pulp paranormal novels of the 30's and 40's. I hope you don't mind and, for those of you unamused by the style, that you are still able to find the entries you want easily. I hope you enjoyed it!